Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Miranda Otto

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 02:07, 1 June 2007.

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Miranda Otto

(previous FAC)

Self-nomination: This article has come a long way from where it was last time it was nominated. It has been greatly expanded, with references and citations. It received very little attention in peer review, but I think that this article is ready now, and I hope you agree. -- Underneath-it-All 23:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

• Comment — Image:Loveserenade-MirandaOtto.jpg says "No free or public domain images have been located for this actor or this film", yet there is one at the top of the article. Pagrashtak 17:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I have corrected this. -- Underneath-it-All 04:46, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

• Comment This image may better show Otto as Eowyn than the one provided, which is a bit too active and not so much focused on Otto. —Cuiviénen 04:51, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I have changed the image. The new image now focuses only on Otto and shows Eowyn in battle. -- Underneath-it-All 03:16, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks. Support now. —Cuiviénen 19:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Underneath-it-All 02:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

• Support - Prose is NPOV and reads clearly. Fulfils other criteria. cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 03:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!! -- Underneath-it-All 03:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

• Support Oppose - but it shouldn't be too difficult to fix:

• The prose is generally good (with exceptions I'll list below), but has one persistent flaw—awkward use of commas. For example, take "A drama, the film portrays the true story of Lindy Chamberlain, who was convicted of killing her baby daughter, Azaria, in one of Australia's most publicized murder trials." Clunky (but probably grammatical, although I'm not an expert). Try this: "The film is a drama that portrays the true story of Lindy Chamberlain; in <year> she was convicted of killing her baby daughter, Azaria, in one of Australia's most publicized murder trials." Go through the article with an eye to fixing other sentences like this.
• In the Biography section, the sizes of the sub-sections differ too greatly. Some should be split or combined (which should be easy to do since all the info is in chronological order anyway).
• Per WP:CAPTION none of the captions in this article should end in a period (because none are complete sentences).
• Having "References" be a sub-section of "Notes" is kind of odd; WP:LAYOUT suggests they should either be totally combined or be top-level siblings.
• "and her career has seen performances" -> "and has performed"
• Sentence beginning "After a decade of critically acclaimed..." is run-on, should be split up.
• "who retired from acting upon Otto's birth" - perhaps put this in parentheses?
• "which she once considered" -> "which she considered"
• "Otto graduated from the..." - should merge this tiny two-sentence paragraph, perhaps with the next paragraph if you decide to combine the two sections per above.
• "Otto's next role was in the film.." - run on, should be split after "Australian family". Please rewrite "portrayed the complex relationships between an Australian family" also; it's clunky, ungrammatical (i.e. should be "between the members of an..."), and kind of hand-wavy.
• "The Lord of the Rings trilogy was a critical and financial success, and won the Academy Award for Best Picture in 2004" - no, actually only the third film won the Oscar, not the whole trilogy.
• "inquiring if she would play" - "asking" is better, I think
• "reportedly caused by the little time they spent together" -> "reportedly because they had spent too little time together"
• "then-future husband" -> "future husband" - Merzbow 07:27, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
• Another thing to fix - a couple paragraphs are uncited or end in uncited sentences. - Merzbow 08:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I have added your suggestions to the article. Hopefully I got everything. -- Underneath-it-All 15:21, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Almost there... there are still a couple paragraphs that don't end in a cite (and thus I can't tell which reference supports the last one or two sentences. - Merzbow 18:31, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I've added more citations throughout the article. I believe I have everything cited now. -- Underneath-it-All 19:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Still a couple more; I've added fact tags to show what I mean. (For some paragraphs it may sufficient just to have one cite at the end of the paragraph instead of citing each sentence). - Merzbow 20:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Added the citations to the article. -- Underneath-it-All 02:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks... changed to support. - Merzbow 03:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for all your helpful suggestions! :) -- Underneath-it-All 02:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.