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Point Park Civic Center[edit]

An unbuilt design by Frank Lloyd Wright. There was a peer review awhile ago at Wikipedia:Peer review/Point Park Civic Center/archive1 at which most concerns were addressed; one concern about external links appears unresolvable. Thanks for your consideration. Christopher Parham (talk) 20:09, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support.Rlevse 16:01, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comments: I like the article and think it is well done. Some minor suggestions: Make the location of the Point clearer, both by adding that it is in the United States, and by something similar to the wording in Point State Park, i.e. "...located where the confluence of the Allegheny and Monongahela Rivers forms the Ohio River, also known as the Forks of the Ohio" (not sure the Forks part is needed). This should make it clearer to people outside of Pennsylvania and especially outside of the US. I would not refer to Kaufman as an industrialist (he owned department stores - maybe a merchant? department store magnate?). I think the year (1947) could be repeated at the start of the Plans for the megastructure section. Would it help to add a few sentences about how the Point developed afterwards (how / when did it become the park it is today)? Questions I had (it is not necessary to do these for FA, but they could be helpful if they are possible). Are there any newspaper stories from the time that could be cited (more / different refs)? Any old maps showing the Point as it was? Perhaps something here [1] or a detail of this 1940 PennDot map with a Pittsburgh inset showing the rivers, Point and bridges could be used (it would have to be fair use) [2] (PDF). Nice job overall, Ruhrfisch 03:33, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your comments. I executed most of your suggestions, although I just linked a useful map rather than incorporating it into the article. I'm not really familiar with how reusable those maps would be and the legitimacy of fair use seems limited (much more so than the images of Wright's plans).
- As far as going to primary sources, the two main scholars referenced rely primarily on private letters between the participants and other such documents; since the plans were not really publicized until after they were killed, newspaper coverage was not enormous. Obviously I haven't completely perused the newspaper archives, but I do not expect that there is anything useful to be found in the primary sources that is not better cited to the secondary sources -- the two scholars works, Cleary particularly, are the definitive ones on the topic. Christopher Parham (talk) 05:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support and thanks for answering my questions so quickly. I like the map linked to very much, but agree it is hard to justify its fair use. An interesting, well written article. Ruhrfisch 10:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support--ZayZayEM 13:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC) Great article.[reply]
~~Object~~ Support - Great article but.....However, the design has garnered scholarly attention, and elements of it have been compared to other Wright designs, such as Monona Terrace and the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum.

~~Do we have to have the sentence beginning with However?~~ my foible really.
The Monona Terrace article states that the project is often erroneously attributed to Wright. Clarification is needed either in this article or the Monona Terrace article.--Mcginnly | Natter 13:17, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wright did draw up the original designs Monona Terrace during his lifetime, but the building ultimately built under that name (many years later) is very different and much less ambitious, though it retains a few of his ideas. Hopefully this is clarified now. As for your first point feel free to change the prose around however you want, I'm not very attached to my "however"s. Christopher Parham (talk) 17:32, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]