Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Superb Fairy-wren

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 04:16, 23 October 2007.

Superb Fairy-wren[edit]

I am nominating Superb Fairy-wren at FAC..another critter that is territorial and lives in a pride like a lion...but seriously. I feel this article is nice and cohesive and comprehensive and throughly referenced. I feel the prose came together OK, and another expert copyeditor has given it the once over. Let me know of any problems and I'll try to fix pronto. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS: All images were taken and uploaded to Commons by their respective authors. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Kennedygr 09:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Ya know nominating more than one article for FAC is discouraged Cas? JSYK. :) Article looks good though! Will comment on it later - no time right now. Spawn Man 00:15, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know, but they are both shortish and got a through grilling beforehand and the other looks ok...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support~~Conditional Support~~ I gave the article a light copyedit- I've always been told not to have more than one semicolon in a sentance. Feel free to revert this if you disagree. Also, in the first paragraph of behaviour, "Plentiful insects are available which allows the birds to rest in between forays" sounds a bit awkward to me: could you reword this? Also, there is no section on either Conservation or Relationship with Humans. I can see why there is not anything for Conservation (though BirdLife International probably has enough for a short section, similar to King Vulture's), but is there nothing out there about it and humans? Still, this article is in my opinion definately featureable and I'll be more than happy to change to support after my questions are adressed. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 20:58, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In answer - the concept is more insects --> easy catching ---> can rest (summer), while winter --> less insects --> must forage continuously. Having a little trouble wording it to avoid ambiguity and repetition simultaneously. If you feel the current is still awkward feel free to tweak.

That sounds better to me. Thanks. R-cS

I hadn't realised there were multiple semicolons in any sentence. I'm happy you reverted. Did you get all of them?

I think so. R-cS

Re Fairy-wrens and humans, I guess like many small birds, the only real human stuff is that they have adapted well to human invasion as long as they have plenty of shelter (I mentioned this in habitat as would be tricky to stick in right at the end and is more ecological than cultural anyway). As they are insectivorous no-one feeds 'em much that I know of ~~and I am unaware of any usage. No book I know records anything and I'll google it post haste.~~ There are two - one as the emblem of BOCA, the other is as a badge for scouts in this country. Now question is, waht to do with them? A 2-3 sentence stubby section or at the bottom of taxonomy? cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. I honestly don't see how it fits in with Taxonomy. My advice would be to make a section at the bottom that would involve both your two things and a quick conservation bit from BirdLife. Obviously, expound on why they chose this bird as the emblam if you can find that out. Thanks for your quick response to my comments. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 00:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

True - taxonomy was a long stretch. I've been musing while AFK and think I can whip up something soon.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:29, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gah! I can go with Wrens and humans and have the cultural stuff with a least concern bit but it seems a bit artificial really. I now can't find the scout ref and each combination I type into google turns up nix (?!). Instead I got two stamp issues, though one was a mistake. I'll see what else comes up as it still looks a little stubby cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:44, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I think it looks good now. I always preferred to have a stubish section over leaving out the information. Thanks, Casliber. Oh, and I'll write up a conservation paragraph at some point and put it on the talk page in case you want to use it. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 16:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support~~Comment~~: Under subspecies, should "... are intermediate between King Island and Tasmanian forms." read are "of intermediate colour"? Just because I wondered, initially reading it, whether it referred to color or to some kind of evolutionary order or relation. I changed "deeper blue colour still; while birds of Flinders Island" to "deeper blue colour still; birds of Flinders Island"; it could also read "deeper blue colour still while birds of Flinders Island" (semicolon to a comma) if you prefer it that way. The article uses a generous amount of semicolons! (I approve; I love semicolons) However, I believe that the semicolon in "Vocal communication has two main roles; " (under Description) should be a colon. Under "Behavior", the sentence "The head, neck and tail are lowered, wings held out and feathers fluffed out; the bird running rapidly and voicing a continuous alarm call" seems awkward to me. Perhaps "The head, neck and tail are lowered, wings held out and feathers fluffed as the bird runs rapidly and voices a continuous alarm call"? --Jude. 23:26, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In answer, yes it is colour that it is intermediate. All your suggestions sound good. ~~It's daytime/weekend here and my time may be limited if you don't see my changes to all of the above feel free to hoe in. All good.~~ all done. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:58, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Everything has been fixed, and I have no further suggestions for changes, so I've added my vote to support the article! Cheers, Jude. 00:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question Maybe I missed it, but is there something in there about conservation status, is is endangered or threatened, etc? Sumoeagle179 21:17, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's the thing - it has adapted well to human change and is common even in urban Sydney. It is under distribution ~~but what I will do is change cultural depictions to X with humans and put something there when I get a chance today.~~ cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:37, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes

Please add more external links. Example: This FAC bird article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Falcon Learnedo 09:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've added a couple of select links - we now have one to a call, and another on birdscaping the garden. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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