Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Technology of the Song Dynasty
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was promoted 01:59, 24 July 2007.
Technology of the Song Dynasty[edit]
The Song Dynasty was a prolific age of innovation and discovery in China. This article certainly does that era of history some justice in displaying feats of mechanical engineering, innovation in astronomical instruments, textile machinery, movable type printing, gunpowder warfare, civil engineering, nautics and seafaring technology, metallurgy, and harnessing of wind power. This article has a dozen different scholarly sources in its Reference section, and as of now, 100 inline citations. The lead portrays the overall themes of the article, and although the article itself is a bit lengthy at 58 kb, each section's length is justified by the relevance of its content. There is a total of 13 images in the article, only 4 of them do not belong to Wikimedia Commons, although none of them have copyright violations. The article is stable, and I can't single out any POV statements. In addition, this article has recently been elevated to GA status. Therefore, I nominate this article for FA status.--PericlesofAthens 04:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I like what I've read so far, and what you've done with this topic. Not a single article within it is without citations.--Rmky87 15:19, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, I worked hard on this.--PericlesofAthens 22:23, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Very interesting and captivating article. A great read, even though I felt like it could use a copyedit here and there. Nothing jumped out as terrible, but if you can get someone to copy edit it then I'm sure you'll have no problems making FA. BenB4 13:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, An interesting and well done article, about an important era in Chinese history. Overall terrific work, (I think you can still get rid of some red ink). I'm mostly aware of Song (Sung ?) dynasty painting, and this article is educational, informative and deserves appreciation. Well done. Modernist 16:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Great! I'm glad you guys enjoyed the article. As you requested I have listed it on the League of Copyeditors proofreading page. Hopefully they'll get to it soon, since it doesn't seem like they have too much of a backlog (only 6 other articles ahead of mine).--PericlesofAthens 17:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Don't you think that you have overused Needham a bit? Is there anyone else who has written on this topic? Incidentally, I copyedited a bit of it.--Danaman5 03:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- True, his work represents the majority of inline citations, but honestly, I don't own too many books of my own, and my school library doesn't have many books about Chinese history during the Song period, let alone the history of Chinese science and technology specifically in the Song period. If you would like to find other sources, or use sources that you already have, that would be helpful. Also, thanks for copyediting it a bit, that was helpful.--PericlesofAthens 04:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Addressing your concern a bit, I am adding another source from Wagner's article on Chinese iron metallurgy in the 11th century. I'll try to find more sources if I can. So far (as I've counted) Needham represents 73 out of 104 inline citations.--PericlesofAthens 20:42, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- True, his work represents the majority of inline citations, but honestly, I don't own too many books of my own, and my school library doesn't have many books about Chinese history during the Song period, let alone the history of Chinese science and technology specifically in the Song period. If you would like to find other sources, or use sources that you already have, that would be helpful. Also, thanks for copyediting it a bit, that was helpful.--PericlesofAthens 04:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Wouldn't a better title be Technological progress during the Song Dynasty? See also should be made much smaller, it is proffered to incorporate all links into the article and remove the section completely.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 19:53, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Technological progress during the Song Dynasty is ok, but it is a bit lengthy compared to the current title. Also, notice how this article was created with the same format of title as several other jutted-off articles for the main Song Dynasty article, including Architecture of the Song Dynasty, Culture of the Song Dynasty, Economy of the Song Dynasty, History of the Song Dynasty, and Society of the Song Dynasty. As to the "See also" section, I will shorten that if you feel it is too lengthy, which it most likely is.--PericlesofAthens 19:58, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- As you requested, I shortened the See also section a while ago.--PericlesofAthens 18:26, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Technological progress during the Song Dynasty is ok, but it is a bit lengthy compared to the current title. Also, notice how this article was created with the same format of title as several other jutted-off articles for the main Song Dynasty article, including Architecture of the Song Dynasty, Culture of the Song Dynasty, Economy of the Song Dynasty, History of the Song Dynasty, and Society of the Song Dynasty. As to the "See also" section, I will shorten that if you feel it is too lengthy, which it most likely is.--PericlesofAthens 19:58, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. I like this article and think it should be featured. Avala 16:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the support. It's pretty silent here now, though. No responses in 5 days.--PericlesofAthens 16:15, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.