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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 02:59, 1 June 2010 [1].

Grammy Award for Best Alternative Music Album[edit]

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Nominator(s): Another Believer (Talk) 16:01, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets criteria and closely resembles the FL status lists (which also happen to be Grammy-related) Grammy Award for Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album and MusiCares Person of the Year. Note: I also nominated Grammy Award for Best Male Rock Vocal Performance recently (see nomination page), which are similar, so reviewer's concerns might apply to both lists. This list should be up to par as far as disambig. links, alternate text, formatting, sorting, etc. go. Thank you for your time and feedback. Another Believer (Talk) 16:01, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 06:36, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • "Years reflect the year in which the Grammy Awards were handed out, for music released in the previous year." I believe this is the most awkward sentence I have read for some time! I know what you're saying, but I really would advocate a re-phrase.
Hmm. This is the same wording used on many of the other Grammy-related lists, including some that have reached FL status. Is there a particular part of the sentence that bothers you, or do you have any suggestions? Also, does the sentence need to then be changed for all other articles (assuming a change is made)? --Another Believer (Talk) 02:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Only other thing I could query would be a couple of the captions, such as "Wilco". Not particularly informative.
I added the year the groups won to Beastie Boys, Wilco, and Phoenix. --Another Believer (Talk) 02:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:15, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Truco
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  • I don't know, but "for quality performances" makes it seem like its just for artist's work on stage. Isn't it about their albums?
  • Would "for quality albums in the alternative music genre" or "for quality alternative music albums" be better? --Another Believer (Talk) 15:33, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Either one would work fine.--Truco 503 23:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Years reflect the year in which the Grammy Awards were handed out, for music released in the previous year." - this would serve better above the table versus the lead as a key/note, or not at all
  • Okay, but would this need to be changed in all of the other Grammy Award lists as well? I think consistency is important. --Another Believer (Talk) 15:33, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Then it should probably be discussed with the respective project because it seems out of place in the lead, in addition having a note at the bottom of the table already there.--Truco 503 23:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Will remove the sentence from the other Grammy-related FLs as well (because, as you mentioned, a note already exists at the bottom of the table). --Another Believer (Talk) 16:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The lead, IMO, should have something regarding the nationality, since it seems vital to the table.
  • Just notify me when that is done.--Truco 503 23:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Hopefully the wording is acceptable. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Does the definition still fall under "While the definition of "alternative" has been debated, the award was first presented in 1991 to recognize non-mainstream rock albums "heavily played on college radio stations"." or is it different now? Its hard to tell from this.
  • What about this?--Truco 503 23:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bingo! I found the most recent description of the category, and inserted the description into the list as requested. Should the description in the award template be updated to be this detailed? --Another Believer (Talk) 16:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Everything else checks out, good work.--Truco 503 22:04, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, as always! --Another Believer (Talk) 16:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- meets WP:WIAFL (all comments addressed). Well that should probably be discussed with the respective project about the definition in the template since that definition is only from Grammys point of view and not in general.--Truco 503 01:51, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: My only irk is with the first sentence. I think it could be split into two, such as "The Grammy Award for Best Alternative Music Album is an award given to recording artists for quality albums in the alternative music genre at the Grammy Awards. The ceremony was established in 1958 and originally called the Gramophone Awards." Problem is if we do that I'm not sure if that sentence really fits. Is that one needed? I'll provisionally support this and will fully if the reply is fine. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 20:11, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Doing... --Another Believer (Talk) 17:35, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought, I feel the current sentence stands on its own. By splitting one sentence into two, emphasis is placed more on the ceremony itself in the second sentence than the actual award. However, if you feel strongly that a change is needed, I am open to making edits. No additional reviewers commented on your suggestion, so I am not sure if some sort of consensus needs to be reached. --Another Believer (Talk) 01:07, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I'm late to the party, but it looks like everything is in order. Nice job. NYCRuss ☎ 17:25, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I'm also late, but this article looks fantastic, and it meets all FL criteria. Great work! WereWolf (talk) 20:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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