Wikipedia:Peer review/Order of Canada/archive1

Order of Canada

Me and User:YUL89YYZ have been updating the article in the past few days. I have added pictures (some of my own creation, others from Veteran Afairs Canada), cleaned up the list of the various recepients by placing them under which grade they have been appointed to. We also added the ranks to the foreign receipients and found out when the Queen Mum was awarded the Order. I know there is some cleanup that needs to be done, but I want to see to send this article to WP:FAC after I am done here. Thanks. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 21:19, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's very small. If not for the pics, lists and section spacing, this could fit on one page. Solution: expand, expand and expand. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 20:56, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What areas should be expanded the most? Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:11, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Here are some questions I would like to see answered: Why was it created? What, if any, system of honours did Canada have before 1967? What happened to this prior system when the new one was created? Who were the first inductees? Was it based on the system of other countries? Has it been copied by any other Commonwealth states, e.g. the Order of Australia? Most of the Advisory Council seems to be political appointees, how much influence does the PMO have over who is selected? - SimonP 23:58, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Dear Simon, I have a few. The honours system was based on the British system and before the Canadian system was used, the British system was used. I have no clue if it was copied by other nations. I can check why it was created and also the first people who got it. I did put information about Terry Fox being the youngest CC in history. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 00:13, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Roland Michener was the first appointee to the Order. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 00:29, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And once the Canadian system was in place, the British system was discontinued all together. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 00:52, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I also put in the ref/note templates in, so the external links have been removed from the main article space. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:44, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

As for the PMO (Prime Minister's Office), I have no clue on how much influence they have (I am an American, so I have no clue on what they can and cannot do). Plus, the citizens make nominations and politicians in office cannot be accepted to the Order. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 01:59, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Also, if the Liberals seem to be getting awards, then the Conservates will get a few. That is why there is an panel that rates each nominated person for appointment. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 02:01, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I answered all of Simon's questions and comments. The Order of Canada was created first, before the Order of Australia and New Zealand. As for the Advisory Council, I have no clue on what rules the Order Constitution have laid down to say who can be part of it. Plus, if any politician appears on here, then they are usually not members of the Order itself. Some do appear on here, but if they have CM, OC or CC, they are not in office anymore. The British system was used before the Canadian honour system was created, but now, the British system is no longer used in Canada. However, most medals were copied from the British system, including the Victoria Cross. I listed the first receipient on the article, but I can see how many were appointed in the first year of its creation. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 04:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

But I do have a question: is it ready for WP:FAC? Zscout370 (Sound Off) 04:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Forget it, I am placing it there now. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:00, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)