Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Goa

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Hello I'm a fellow goan who'd love to contribute and work on this project. Thanks Rejoy2003 (talk) 22:04, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

@Rejoy2003 could you add a Konkani audio recording for Goa? Thanks. 178.120.7.213 (talk) 15:37, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, there's already one available at the Goa page which is in English. If I were to change it to Konkani, the pronounciation changes to Gõy or Goem. But the article is named in English. Hence that won't be usefull. Rejoy²⁰⁰³(talk) 15:57, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

@Rejoy2003 but it's useful to us non-Konkanis. I've never heard how to say it, I want to learn. It's also strange how it has English pronunciation but not the indigenous pronunciation, धन्यवाद। 178.120.7.213 (talk) 16:18, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

I understand what you're getting at but it still would not align with the article title. Konkani itself has two versions. The one which is written in Devnagari script and the one in Romi Konkani. The later is mostly used by Goan Catholics. If we take Madeira for example there's a Portuguese audio. Because the pronounciation aligns with the article name. Like I said before in Romi Konkani or in Devnagari it would be pronounced as Goem or Gõy. Which would not match the article. If you're interested to learn more about how to pronounce it you can find similar videos online, or if you have an article that has multiple audio files attached maybe then I can help. Rejoy²⁰⁰³(talk) 16:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

@Rejoy2003 but it would align with this part in the lede: Konkani pronunciation: [ɡõːj].

Oh well, I'll ask Konkanis when I visit Goa... someday. 178.120.7.213 (talk) 18:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

I have never seen a geographical article have two audio files attached in the lead. Hence I asked if you have seen any such articles on the English Wikipedia. Also people of Goa are called Goans. Whereas Konkani people is a broad spectrum. Rejoy²⁰⁰³(talk) 18:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Well could you at least do it for Konkan? It does align with the article title. 178.120.70.211 (talk) 10:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

If you want the Goa pronounciation, I can send it to you here. Speaking of Konkan, the pronounciation would come the same as English. Never heard much difference. Maybe an extra "a'. Like this "Konkaa-n". Rejoy²⁰⁰³(talk) 10:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Indian English maybe, American English doesn't have the ण sound.

As for Goa, yes, that'd be nice. 176.60.50.218 (talk) 10:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

You can find the Goa pronounciation as Goem here [1]. Rejoy²⁰⁰³(talk) 13:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Indian English in general is not the best while pronouncing Konkani words. Even non-Goans who speak Indian English pronounce most of the Konkani words wrong. Best you can learn to speak is with native Goans. Rejoy²⁰⁰³(talk) 13:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Ok but what about ण, it's pronounced differently from न right? An American would say कोंकन or possibly even खोंखन. So I think Indian English is closer than American or British. See this is why I think an audio would be helpful.

I just was referring to the word कोंकण specifically, but ofc it's always better to learn a language from native speakers. 176.60.50.218 (talk) 17:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't even deal with Devnagari script much in real life. Apart from using this script back way back in my school days, and a few other rare times I've used it for Konkani Wikipedia, I don't really prefer it. As a fellow Goan Catholic, we prefer to talk (Goan Konkani) and write in Romi Konkani, it is something associated with our culture and daily life. For devnagari, you'll have to find experts of devnagari or Goan Hindus about. I won't be able to help much. Rejoy²⁰⁰³(talk) 18:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

The bottom-line is yeah the two letters of Devnagari are different. As far I can remember my Indian indic studies. Rejoy²⁰⁰³(talk) 18:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

How does Konkani Romi work anyway? How do you write ट ड ण ड़? 178.120.7.213 (talk) 18:13, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

It's difficult to explain here. You'll need to go through books or any other similar websites. You can get an overall grasp of the language variation from the respective article Romi Konkani. Rejoy²⁰⁰³(talk) 18:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)