Talk:Civic Commitment

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PSDI[edit]

@Checco: I think i understood the situation there are:

Italian Democratic Socialist Party (2004): centre-right and explicitly stated that they did NOT joined IC, led by Vizzini (their FB)
Social Democrats (Italy)/The Social Democrats: centre-left (website, FB)
Social Democratic Rebirth: centre-right (has many different FB accounts, website)
Proposta Socialista Democratica Innovativa: joined IC, led by Calì, (FB, website)
also there is a new SOLE which presented their symbol? cant find any info about them, but doesnt really matter Braganza (talk) 21:30, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your detailed account of the various heirs of the Italian Democratic Socialist Party! Thanks for your explanation! --Checco (talk) 05:04, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ideology[edit]

The electoral list had not a strong ideology. Of its two founding parties, CD is Christian-leftist and Christian-democratic, while IpF had not a clear ideology, so that there is no other description than "centrist" in the corresponding article. I would actually leave blank the ideology camp in the infobox also in this article. -- Checco (talk) 15:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, "green" comes as a surprise to me. Unless we want to add Pro-Europeanism or Atlanticism as the main idea behind this list, I don't know. One additional note: not even it.wiki has a separate article for this electoral list. Yakme (talk) 15:33, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is not exactly a surprise as IpF was a splinter group from the M5S, a populist/green party. This said, I would remove the ideology camp altogether. --Checco (talk) 15:35, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fine for me. Yakme (talk) 15:36, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded. (FWIW, I'm not keen on ideologies being listed for electoral lists/alliances generally, unless they happen to be heterogenous alliances.)-- Autospark (talk) 15:41, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem keeping the ideologies section out of the infobox, also because in this case the absence of ideologies is total, Di Maio had hastily built this list not on an ideological basis but with the aim of grabbing a few seats in Parliament with FPTP-system. In any case, the statement "According to some sources, IC's platform was green" is decidedly inaccurate: "environmentalism (green politics)" as well as "reformism" are not ideologies attributed by "some sources" but by Di Maio and Tabacci themselves. And if one (self-attributed) ideology is included in the text, the other ones (always self-attributed) cannot be excluded.--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 22:09, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]